Over on the ChinesePod discussion forum, Ken Carroll asks how ChinesePod fits into your daily routine. I’ve recently altered the way I study Chinese and am enjoying a renewed sense of excitement at how things are progressing so I thought I’d share Ken’s question, and my response here.
I’m trying to understand you better. I’d like to know more about how you use ChinesePod. Do you have a daily routine for it? How/when/where does it fit into your day? To what extent does it allow you to learn on your terms, to fit the learning into your lifestyle, to bring the learning to you?
On average, I seem to be spending around 4 hours a day somewhere in between home and the office. This equates to two working days every week travelling (changing this part of my daily routine is still a work in progress). If I could only spend a fraction of that time studying Chinese then I’m sure progress would be good.
The reality is that, so far, mobile learning has not worked for me. In the mornings I tend to sleep, or stare blankly out of the train window and in the evenings it is again sleep or colleagues that keep me from my studies. “Excuses!” you say? The reality is that studying whilst doing something else (even travelling) isn’t as effective as dedicated study time.
- First thing in the morning I listen to a ChinesePod (Elementary) lesson whilst eating breakfast. If there is time I will try and run through the dialogue (without English) on the site.
- When I arrive at work, I save all the lesson vocabulary to my ChinesePod vocab manager, a step in my routine that has stuck for no particular reason other than that I have always done this. I don’t use ChinesePod for vocab management.
- I then run through the expansion sentences and exercises. I try and work out the expansion sentences from Hanzi alone. If I get stuck I listen to the audio, and if I still can’t understand, I mouse over the individual characters.
- Once I have completed the exercises I mark the lesson as studied and get on with clearing out my inbox.
It’s not always as clean cut as this. Some days things don’t go to plan and so I have a couple of fall back options. The best time to listen to lessons is in the morning, preferably before I leave home, but definitely before I get on the train. It is best to leave a short period of time between listening to the lesson and working through the exercises. My method is by no means perfect, but since trying this routine I’ve been enjoying my study a lot more.
Other tasks that I am trying to form into habits are:
- Posting on Twitter in Chinese. There have been some great discussions between Chinese learners on Twitter.
- I copy all vocab (using Ctrl+C, Ctrl+V) from the ChinesePod site into a master vocab list. I then import this into Anki for study. I also share this list with a number of people.
- Copy the expansion sentences into an Anki deck. This allows me to test myself against all the sentences and phrases that I should know – something that doesn’t appear to be possible on the ChinesePod site.
- Running through 15 minutes of vocab study on Anki.
- Try to work a couple of spoken phrases into daily life. In doing this I need to kick the habit of mixing Chinese and English in a single sentence.
My head is full of ideas for how to utilise the upcoming ChinesePod API to eliminate the ragged edges from my routine (Ctrl+C, Ctrl+V I’m looking at you). I will post more on these thoughts soon. In the meantime though I am more than happy to answer any questions in the comments.
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Interesting. Thanks for sharing!
You noticed that ChinesePod now supports exporting directly to Anki, right?
Just out of curiosity, how many facts are you up to in Anki? It would be great if you could do a post on your experiences with Anki as well…
Bill,
We don’t support export direct from each lesson page, but it’s a pretty simple matter to save all, go into the vocab manager, label only the words you want, then export that label. I imagine it’s no more complex than whatever you do now to import into Anki.
Of course, what you really need (as you mentioned) is the vocab API. It’s almost ready!
You’re far more ambitious than I am. I need to find a routine–something I haven’t had in a very long time (grade school maybe?). I seriously need to focus more time and energy on studying Chinese (I’ve been saying that for three years).
You are doing what I have been doing before (more rigourously than me actually), which is great but does not help you with 1) speaking & 2) writing characters. So you end up being able to listen & read fairly well but find it difficult to have conversations (little talk practice through the ‘jaw muscle’) and remembering many characters (via the ‘hand muscle’)
I can recommend you to check out the following sites:
http://www.ChineseTeachers.com: An interesting place to have 1-1 Chinese lessons anytime you want, even if 10 minutes every day because you only pay per second of teaching (and the first 2 minutes is free) – perfect for the speaking Chinese practice
http://www.Skritter.com: Definitively the best place to learn how to write Chinese characters. They have really clever software to make sure you remember over time all the characters you learn – perfect for the writing Chinese characters practice
Hello Bill.i am Echo from China.I see the good efforts you made studying Manderin Chinese. I am sure that you will achieve your success.
您好 Bill。我叫Echo,来自中国。我看到你非常努力地学习中文。我相信你会获得成功的。
I follow you on Twitter,as Sunkiss3d.
我在Twitter上加你了,用Sunkiss3d名字。
John,
I did notice the new export formats for ChinesePod. I believe you now support CSV, XML, Anki, and PlecoDict. There are two reasons I don’t use any of them.
The first is that I cannot export vocab for a single lesson. When studying a lesson I’d like to quickly review the vocabulary for that lesson before doing the exercises. The aim here being to complete the exercises without flicking back and forth between Pinyin and Hanzi.
The second reason is that I only want to maintain one vocabulary list from all my sources of input. Chinese lessons, ChinesePod, Tweets, my wife, to name but a few. This then becomes a list of all the words/characters I should know. Having this all in one place is a peace of mind thing at the moment, but I have a couple of ideas on how to make this useful.
A post on Anki is a great idea and it is now on my task list. There are a couple of features I’d like to investigate before I write the post though: plugins, and importing audio files.
I do like Skritter and it made it into my Top 5 Tools for Studying Chinese. For some reason I haven’t visited in a while. Will definitely try and work it back into my routine.
Thanks for the encouragement. I had a quick look on Twitter but couldn’t find your username. Will look out for your tweets.